Old Dec 10th 2007, 02:27 PM   #1
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18z GFS: One word.... YIKES!!

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Old Dec 10th 2007, 03:12 PM   #2
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Old Dec 10th 2007, 04:16 PM   #3
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The Euro model from 12Z has something similar. In fact, it looks like the Blizzard of '93 revisited.

Advice: don't tell your ND if you live along the east coast just yet...
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Old Dec 10th 2007, 05:02 PM   #4
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The Euro model from 12Z has something similar. In fact, it looks like the Blizzard of '93 revisited.

Advice: don't tell your ND if you live along the east coast just yet...
Haha... wow...
That's like saying two weeks ahead of time in New Orleans that a Katrina-like storm may be brewing.
Not a good idea.
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972mb!!!


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Old Dec 10th 2007, 07:25 PM   #6
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0z GFS sticking with that solution. Double yikes.
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Old Dec 10th 2007, 07:37 PM   #7
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The Euro model from 12Z has something similar. In fact, it looks like the Blizzard of '93 revisited.

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rdale says if euro has it, consider it a historical weather fact!
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Old Dec 10th 2007, 07:45 PM   #8
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Some forecasting offices are already saying that 3 out of every 4 airlines will be shut down and 92.4% of all power lines will be downed in the area, with roughly 192 accidents per hour in the NYC metro area! That's good forecastin' at this range, no matter WHAT any model says or common sense would tell you

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...or 1012mb on the NAM - but what's a few millbars between friends

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Old Dec 10th 2007, 07:54 PM   #9
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The Euro model from 12Z has something similar. In fact, it looks like the Blizzard of '93 revisited.

Advice: don't tell your ND if you live along the east coast just yet...
yeah, that 12z ECMWF made me go ....As does the 0z operational GFS..Definitely too soon to freak the public out about it, but anyone in the eastern U.S. definitely needs to watch carefully and not just toss this thing out as just a model flop...Will be interesting to see in a little while what the GFS ensembles do with it, as well as the EC, Canadian and Nogaps..

Extended period of ice out in the midwest/plains ongoing with record warmth in the southeast...This is often a precursor to strong southern-stream action the following week...

Perfect progging the current model output would be good news for my area, as it would spell heavy rains (and we're in a major drought, about to go down as the driest year on record here)....on the other hand, slight deviation to the NW of surface low track could spell a svr wx risk, whereas a slower and more south and east track could cause some wintry mix problems.....Rain, ice/snow, or severe--either way, I'd have to cheer it on because if we don't get some good precip soon, it could lead to some serious problems in parts of the southeast..

Definitely worth keeping an eye on, even though it is extended range because climatology extending from the current pattern would suggest an enhanced risk of a big southern and eastern U.S. storm system around that time..and speaking of the previous mention from another poster about the '93 superstorm, guidance picked up nicely on it far in advance...Not to say it will definitely be a repeat this time around, but the point is to not just automatically throw out longer range guidance everytime it develops a big storm---rather determine if it's a climatologically favorable situation based on time of year and current pattern around the world, as well as looking for consistancy and trends of other guidance to go along with the scenerio...
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Some forecasting offices are already saying that 3 out of every 4 airlines will be shut down and 92.4% of all power lines will be downed in the area, with roughly 192 accidents per hour in the NYC metro area! That's good forecastin' at this range, no matter WHAT any model says or common sense would tell you



...or 1012mb on the NAM - but what's a few millbars between friends

Since when did the NAM start going out 130 plus hours? All I ever find is 84 hours
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In fact, it looks like the Blizzard of '93 revisited.
Sorry ump - not waiting for three strikes, because you're out

Nothing I can see resemble even REMOTELY the '93 event other than one set of GFS maps. Miguel is even old enough to remember that...

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Since when did the NAM start going out 130 plus hours? All I ever find is 84 hours
Sorry - DGEX (guess that's part NAM and part GFS)
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Now the 00z GEM jumps on board...

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06Z GFS run looks very impressive! I guess time will tell huh??? I think it might be a little windy on the east coast!
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4 runs of EC now plus all models but GAPS going for it.

UK and EC similar track...GGEM track in between these two and more western GFS.

Looks like I'll be working Sunday !

Hey Mayhem even Al, if GFS verifies you guys could get great "lake enhanced" snow tots your DMA's
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Those isobars are tighhhhhht! I'd love to experience that gradient...for a minute.

I once took a spring break to Boston, good choice right, and a northeaster' developed, we didn't bring coats, had to buy a hoody, that didn't help seeing the sights in downtown Boston. Coldest day ever. Like 30 degrees with 50mph winds.
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if this thing pans out for Maine we are changing the name of Stormwatch to Death-From-Above-Watch
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4 runs of EC now plus all models but GAPS going for it.

UK and EC similar track...GGEM track in between these two and more western GFS.

Looks like I'll be working Sunday !

Hey Mayhem even Al, if GFS verifies you guys could get great "lake enhanced" snow tots your DMA's
This is why I left CNY too much of this stuff. I enjoy my 80 degree days in Virginia, in December!
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83 here today, tomorrow and Thursday
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If this does pan out, we may see our first shot at some wintry mix by Sat. morning here in Dixie. But I echo the others, still haven't said the "s" word, people here would run for the grocery store!
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As I used to work in Scranton, and now in Columbus, I am watching this one. The GFS really backed off yesterday on the 12Z but as many of you noted this could be a biggie. If the next run of the Euro looks like it, I'd be placing serious money on a bomb this weekend. The 6Z GFS looks impressive as well, but I try not follow the the 6 or 18Z that much. I think these are the least accurate of the GFS runs. I'm anxiously awaiting the 12Z package this morning.
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What makes it more likely to happen is the what is left of Olga will be drawn in to help strengthen this. When I see bombs be fairly consistent from run to run and other models (Euro/GEM) showing the same thing...maybe not the exact same position or strength....I sit up and take notice. Now, with Olga's vorticity abel to feed in to this, I can almost guarantee we'll have a coastal bomb.

Plus, I don't often see forecastguy just 'jump' on a storm for no reason. He has a very keen intuition about all things weather.
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As I used to work in Scranton, and now in Columbus, I am watching this one. The GFS really backed off yesterday on the 12Z but as many of you noted this could be a biggie. If the next run of the Euro looks like it, I'd be placing serious money on a bomb this weekend. The 6Z GFS looks impressive as well, but I try not follow the the 6 or 18Z that much. I think these are the least accurate of the GFS runs. I'm anxiously awaiting the 12Z package this morning.
The 06z GFS looks like it having its "systematic error" of keeping two lows- one with the filling primary and the other with the developing secondary. Oft times it will combine the two systems into one, thus the current warmer scenario.

For now the GGEM to me is a good compromise.
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