Romney-Ryan

Pro · Aug 10th 2012, 08:52 PM

Multiple sources say Mitt Romney will name Paul Ryan as his VP choice on Saturday:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...an_649722.html

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mitt-...9#.UCXkiZ2PUYk

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1684794.html

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...pick-ryan?lite

Ralphie the buffalo · Aug 10th 2012, 09:01 PM

I think it is misdirection.

Kace · Aug 10th 2012, 09:03 PM

Chuck Norris.

Pro · Aug 10th 2012, 09:08 PM

CNN is now reporting it as well:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...cnn/?hpt=hp_t1

Three Republican sources tell CNN that Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin is Mitt Romney’s running mate pick.

rootboyslim · Aug 11th 2012, 04:40 AM

So he chose a conservative for the base and a guy who actually has some plans out there that no on else has---plans that is,

Kace · Aug 11th 2012, 04:43 AM

Romney really missed the boat by not going with McMillan.

rootboyslim · Aug 11th 2012, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kace

Romney really missed the boat by not going with McMillan.

mcMillan or his wife?

Kace · Aug 11th 2012, 04:59 AM

rootboyslim · Aug 11th 2012, 05:04 AM

Am I aging myself Kace??

Diplomat · Aug 11th 2012, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kace

Romney really missed the boat by not going with McMillan.

One of Obama's supporters in the press corps would probably have accused Romney of owning the buildings where the rent is too damn high.

McMillan would be my choice for HUD Secretary, though.

spectre · Aug 11th 2012, 05:30 AM

lol rominey just said, 'please join me in welcoming the next president of the united states, paul ryan.' abdicating already.

Union Label · Aug 11th 2012, 06:01 AM

I was really counting on him picking Michelle Bachmann. Romney's choice of Ryan pretty much dooms any hopes we might have for a $2.00 gallon of gas.

Mr. Pratfall · Aug 11th 2012, 06:09 AM

That would have been an awesome move.

Pro · Aug 11th 2012, 07:33 AM

Interesting. Ryan will be giving up his chairmanship of the House Budget Committee, assuming Republicans retain the House (which they are favored to do right now). To run on a ticket not favored to win.

But then again, if the ticket does lose, but Ryan acquits himself well, he'll be the front runner for the Republican nomination in 2016. He'll move to "next in line" status. He'll have four years to campaign across the country without being tied down in the House. And 2016 probably will be a Republican year.

So it does make sense, if Ryan has Presidential aspirations.

Lazlo Toth · Aug 11th 2012, 08:10 AM

Can he run for both? House seat and VP?

This writer seems to indicate he can:

http://www.wiscnews.com/news/local/g...a4bcf887a.html

Marty McFly · Aug 11th 2012, 08:13 AM

Where is the ticket not favored to win?
Did oddsmakers in Vegas release odds that are clearly against them?

22 · Aug 11th 2012, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty McFly

Where is the ticket not favored to win?
Did oddsmakers in Vegas release odds that are clearly against them?

He is not favored to win in most polls that take the electoral college into consideration.

Pro · Aug 11th 2012, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazlo Toth

Can he run for both? House seat and VP?

This writer seems to indicate he can:

http://www.wiscnews.com/news/local/g...a4bcf887a.html

Thanks, Laz. I didn't realize that. Most states don't allow it. But a few do. Apparently, Wisconsin is one of them.

If I were him, and had Presidential aspirations, I wouldn't run for re-election, though.

Pro · Aug 11th 2012, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty McFly

Where is the ticket not favored to win?
Did oddsmakers in Vegas release odds that are clearly against them?

Intrade currently had the odds Obama 58.4, Romney 39.4

Lazlo Toth · Aug 11th 2012, 08:55 AM

Yeah, things like Congressional elections can have all sorts of arcane stuff. For example, in Califonria you don't have to live in the Congressional district you represent, just be a resident of the state.

Pro · Aug 11th 2012, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazlo Toth

Yeah, things like Congressional elections can have all sorts of arcane stuff. For example, in Califonria you don't have to live in the Congressional district you represent, just be a resident of the state.

That's actually true in most states. The U.S. Constitution does not require district residency, only state residency. But a few states have their own constitutional provisions for district residency. That's either been upheld by SCOTUS or never challenged.

Desert Rat · Aug 11th 2012, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazlo Toth

Yeah, things like Congressional elections can have all sorts of arcane stuff. For example, in Califonria you don't have to live in the Congressional district you represent, just be a resident of the state.

In Arizona, you are required to live in the district you represent...

Lazlo Toth · Aug 11th 2012, 09:50 AM

And the Speaker of the House does not have to be a member of the House. Though, no one -- as far as I know -- has ever been elected Speaker who wasn't.

Pro · Aug 11th 2012, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazlo Toth

Yeah, things like Congressional elections can have all sorts of arcane stuff. For example, in Califonria you don't have to live in the Congressional district you represent, just be a resident of the state.

Laz, in doing more research, I think the federal courts did strike down such a law:

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jun/22/news/mn-43749

The U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has struck down a California residency rule for congressional candidates, deciding that a state cannot add requirements for federal office to those already set down in the U.S. Constitution.

Dunno if this was appealed to SCOTUS and if so, what they ruled.

ewink · Aug 11th 2012, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert Rat

In Arizona, you are required to live in the district you represent...

I would never vote for someone who doesn't have the decency to live in the district they represent. After all, isn't that the whole freaking purpose? I mean, I'd be willing to let them slide if their house was gerrymandered out of a district, or if they were right across the street, but if I lived in one area of town and my rep lived in an upscale neighborhood in a different city in a different district... Nope.

As for Romney, as I said in the other thread. This is probably the best thing he can do seeing as now he might actually appear to have a plan rather than just a vague idea on what to do for the economy and the budget. Plus this will help with Wisconsin.

RCP had Wisconsin leaning Obama, now has it as a battleground state (tossup). Assuming Obama would get all the states on the map that he's currently leading in, losing Wisconsin was a huge deal, despite it only being 10EVs since he was only 20 or so from 270. Now he's 33. Plus the TEAVP will encourage those far righties who were meh about Romney to vote (though they were going to vote anyway as they are all 'anyone but Obama' voters).

All that said, still got two-plus months. Fun things can happen.

Aug 10th 2012, 08:52 PM	#1
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rootboyslim Open Line Elite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Southeast, USA Posts: 13,179	So he chose a conservative for the base and a guy who actually has some plans out there that no on else has---plans that is, __________________ "It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care!" FEAR THE TURTLE! GO TERPS!

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Kace Hotter Than World 2 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Planet Posts: 30,141	Romney really missed the boat by not going with McMillan. __________________ Will rule the World for a snack

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Pro Open Line Elite Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 31,973	CNN is now reporting it as well: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...cnn/?hpt=hp_t1 Three Republican sources tell CNN that Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin is Mitt Romney’s running mate pick.

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spectre Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 417	lol rominey just said, 'please join me in welcoming the next president of the united states, paul ryan.' abdicating already. __________________ the latest

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Union Label Open Line Veteran Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Mother Earth Posts: 3,183	I was really counting on him picking Michelle Bachmann. Romney's choice of Ryan pretty much dooms any hopes we might have for a $2.00 gallon of gas. __________________ Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

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Mr. Pratfall Open Line Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Neither here nor there Posts: 2,568	That would have been an awesome move. __________________ I didn't say it was an interesting story.

Aug 11th 2012, 07:33 AM	#14
Pro Open Line Elite Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 31,973	Interesting. Ryan will be giving up his chairmanship of the House Budget Committee, assuming Republicans retain the House (which they are favored to do right now). To run on a ticket not favored to win. But then again, if the ticket does lose, but Ryan acquits himself well, he'll be the front runner for the Republican nomination in 2016. He'll move to "next in line" status. He'll have four years to campaign across the country without being tied down in the House. And 2016 probably will be a Republican year. So it does make sense, if Ryan has Presidential aspirations.

Aug 11th 2012, 08:10 AM	#15
Lazlo Toth Open Line Elitist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 18,631	Can he run for both? House seat and VP? This writer seems to indicate he can: http://www.wiscnews.com/news/local/g...a4bcf887a.html __________________ "The Dude abides."

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Lazlo Toth Open Line Elitist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 18,631	Yeah, things like Congressional elections can have all sorts of arcane stuff. For example, in Califonria you don't have to live in the Congressional district you represent, just be a resident of the state. __________________ "The Dude abides."

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Lazlo Toth Open Line Elitist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 18,631	And the Speaker of the House does not have to be a member of the House. Though, no one -- as far as I know -- has ever been elected Speaker who wasn't. __________________ "The Dude abides."

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