Non linear editing - Page 2

DoneThatToo · Nov 10th 2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by Fire Hydrogant:
. . . because for years I'd worked in shops where if you wanted a dissolve you had to take your raw to production and have the production monkeys do it . . .

Way to give props to the folks who helped you deliver a better product.

AutoTranz · Nov 10th 2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by Fire Hydrogant:
you had to take your raw to production and have the production monkeys do it on the switcher the old fashioned way.

Wow.

[ November 10, 2006, 03:28 PM: Message edited by: Auto Tranz ]

The Fighting Cochrane · Nov 10th 2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by DoneThatToo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fire Hydrogant:
. . . because for years I'd worked in shops where if you wanted a dissolve you had to take your raw to production and have the production monkeys do it . . .

Way to give props to the folks who helped you deliver a better product. </font>[/QUOTE]I prefer to call them "production carnies".

thebrain · Nov 10th 2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by photog78:
I only use dissolves to transition indoors/outdoors or for time/place.

I also like them going into graphics and sometimes coming out of a graphic. Also it helps to bring a little emotion out of some stories. Otherwise, it slows the pacing down and is not needed in most stories.

ISTHISTHINGON? · Nov 10th 2006, 05:14 PM

We're tape to tape(I've worked at another shop that used Non-lin), and the photogs shoot like they've never shot a cutaway. I'll have 10 great wide shots though. And before one thinks I'm photog bashing....these guys are fresh outta school(sad bc I'm in top 80), I've repeatedly shown them how to shoot 3 depths from each shot, and cutaways....but when we get back to the station, 10 great wide shots. Sometimes I wish I did have non-linear so I could at least do away with the white flash!

CKMD · Nov 10th 2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by wxgeek:
Dissolves should be used in George Lucas movies. Not in news pieces.

There are some stories that could use dissolves: time change, season change, indoor/outdoor. It's a transition.
But, it has to make sense. Our photogs aren't allowed to just throw it in because they can.

Boots · Nov 10th 2006, 06:44 PM

I don't think photog's are lazier. There are more shows and crap to shoot. Period.

For most of the packages there should be and are plenty of cutaways with no dissolves. Any photog who has shot more then a year should know cutaways and anticipate them in the field.

On a side note. I was told my tape had too many dissolves, but the station I was interviewing at was deck to deck, good luck with those A/B rolls. My tape had plenty of cutaways.

The laziness you speak of is more from slamming a pack together to make that "dog lick" live then anything else. No time to edit = crappy package.

It also depends on what your shooting on. The newer tapeless camera's save video as clips everytime you hit record and stop. This makes it easier in the edit bay to find the cutaways and use them when your cramming to edit to make your shot.

[ November 10, 2006, 07:49 PM: Message edited by: Boots ]

Nov 10th 2006, 05:14 PM	#30
ISTHISTHINGON? "Livin' B-e-a-utiful" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The MOMMY-DADDY Button Posts: 5,617	We're tape to tape(I've worked at another shop that used Non-lin), and the photogs shoot like they've never shot a cutaway. I'll have 10 great wide shots though. And before one thinks I'm photog bashing....these guys are fresh outta school(sad bc I'm in top 80), I've repeatedly shown them how to shoot 3 depths from each shot, and cutaways....but when we get back to the station, 10 great wide shots. Sometimes I wish I did have non-linear so I could at least do away with the white flash! __________________ " I quit the band, now I just play with myself "

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Nov 10th 2006, 06:44 PM	#32
Boots Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: nope Posts: 71	I don't think photog's are lazier. There are more shows and crap to shoot. Period. For most of the packages there should be and are plenty of cutaways with no dissolves. Any photog who has shot more then a year should know cutaways and anticipate them in the field. On a side note. I was told my tape had too many dissolves, but the station I was interviewing at was deck to deck, good luck with those A/B rolls. My tape had plenty of cutaways. The laziness you speak of is more from slamming a pack together to make that "dog lick" live then anything else. No time to edit = crappy package. It also depends on what your shooting on. The newer tapeless camera's save video as clips everytime you hit record and stop. This makes it easier in the edit bay to find the cutaways and use them when your cramming to edit to make your shot. [ November 10, 2006, 07:49 PM: Message edited by: Boots ]