Old Aug 8th 2008, 06:11 AM   #1
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Default These guys really don't like Obama

He's a socialist.

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Old Aug 8th 2008, 06:15 AM   #2
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I've been concerned for some time about his talk about "economic justice" and what that would actually mean. The article is very interesting.

Of course, anyone who's against Obama is a racist.
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Old Aug 8th 2008, 06:18 AM   #3
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As has so often been said, the devil's in the details.
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Old Aug 8th 2008, 06:35 AM   #4
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It's so funny how publications like this can rail on about socialism, yet at the same time advocate Uncle Sam bailing out the banking sector and Wall Street for bad decisions they made.

In my experience, everyone's a raging capitalist until their a$$ is in a sling.
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Old Aug 8th 2008, 06:40 AM   #5
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10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto
Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Abolition of all right of inheritance.
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
Free education for all children in public schools.
Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. (That's a good one)Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.[4]
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It's so funny how publications like this can rail on about socialism, yet at the same time advocate Uncle Sam bailing out the banking sector and Wall Street for bad decisions they made.

In my experience, everyone's a raging capitalist until their a$$ is in a sling.
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Old Aug 8th 2008, 08:27 AM   #7
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Taking speculative meaning of the phrase from pundits as gospel? Are you journalists or fools? Ask Obama what he meant by the phrase. I'd wager it has something to do with corporate welfare.
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It's so funny how publications like this can rail on about socialism, yet at the same time advocate Uncle Sam bailing out the banking sector and Wall Street for bad decisions they made.

In my experience, everyone's a raging capitalist until their a$$ is in a sling.
Socialism for the rich and free market for everybody else. That's pretty much how we do it these days.
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It's so funny how publications like this can rail on about socialism, yet at the same time advocate Uncle Sam bailing out the banking sector and Wall Street for bad decisions they made.

In my experience, everyone's a raging capitalist until their a$$ is in a sling.
And in my experience, everyone's a raging socialist until they start making real money.
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Old Aug 8th 2008, 04:43 PM   #10
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And in my experience, everyone's a raging socialist until they start making real money.
You mean like the CEOs of Fannie & Freddie? Or Hank Paulson, the treasury secretary & former Goldman Sachs CEO who helped craft the housing bill - FNMA/FRE bailout?
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As has so often been said, the devil's in the details.
For sure.
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Old Aug 12th 2008, 10:29 PM   #12
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When liberals talk about "economic justice," it's code for "Socialism."
When conservatives talk about "socialism," it's code for "any type of government spending that doesn't involve blowing things up or incarcerating people."
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