Frienemies

[Dap]

What an odd word. It is an oxymoron, isn't it? Really now, how can one be friends and enemies?

Do you have frienemies?

[HushHush]

As a hermit, I don't have friends ... so how could I have frienemies?

[Diplomat]

What an odd word. It is an oxymoron, isn't it? Really now, how can one be friends and enemies?

Do you have frienemies?

It is an odd word.

I would say a "frienemy" (singular) is someone who professes to be your friend but undercuts or tries to outdo you, etc. and claims they're "just kidding," as an example. That is how I would see it.

My friends are not like that but I've had "family" members who were.

[newz2me]

"Always keep your friends close, but your enemies keep closer."
-J. Wallace Day

[sportzchick]

Fr-enemies...who when you're down ain't your friends. Or so says the New Radicals.

[Pro]

"Always keep your friends close, but your enemies keep closer."
-J. Wallace Day

I thought that was Michael Corleone quoting his father. ;)

[Mighty Dyckerson]

How about a frienema? That's a friend who gives you a bad case of the squirts.

[Banned_Forever]

Bin Laden as to CIA

CIA as to Saddam Husssein

Manual Noriega as to CIA

Oliver North as to CIA

It's Like the Frienemy Network.

Now, if they could just get a 900 Number instead of selling Drugs and Sex on the Streets of America?

[Spike]

What an odd word.

It's not an odd word. It's not a word at all.

[Dap]

It's not an odd word. It's not a word at all.

Right then. Is this the "it's not in the dictionary so it isn't a word" game?

[Mighty Dyckerson]

Is this the "it's not in the dictionary so it isn't a word" game?


Umm, yeah, 'cause that's what "not in the dictionary" means.

(I take it you're blonde...)

[Banned_Forever]

Usage determines a word's value. And in the internet age dictionaries

are not always, but usually, the last word, when it comes to recognizing

accepted usage.

---------------

The Brightside? ...make up any word you like. If it's popularity demands,
it will become necessary to catalog that information for proper interpretation.

It's all about communication.

And, the internet has made dictionary producers all to aware of the viral
nature of culture and language usage, and helped them to jump on a wagon
that left without them.

[Dap]

Umm, yeah, 'cause that's what "not in the dictionary" means.

(I take it you're blonde...)

No. I have dark hair and a huge square head. ;)

Words are derived from language spoken by people. When was the last time Webster coined a term or word?

[Mighty Dyckerson]

When was the last time Webster coined a term or word?

November 12, 2007

[Spike]

Right then. Is this the "it's not in the dictionary so it isn't a word" game?

No, this is the "it's a made up bunch of horsesh*t so it isn't a word" game.

[Banned_Forever]

If it's on Wikipedia? ...It's Real.

[The Mockingbird]

In every instance of pop culture where this concept has surfaced, there is a subtle reminder that using this word is the verbal equivalent of wearing a giant "I am a doofus" sticker on your forehead.

[Banned_Forever]

American Foreign Policy

Condoleezza Rice
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/condi_rice.jpg
Frienemy - Opposed Ideaology - Yet Love and Respect.

[Dap]

No, this is the "it's a made up bunch of horsesh*t so it isn't a word" game.

Every word in every language is made up. Or do you believe language preceded humans?

[Ralphie the buffalo]

I wonder why the word "freneny" caught on instead of the word "froe" (friend+foe)?

http://www.unitedway.chatham-kent.on.ca/main/campaign/Team%20Photographs%202007b/Team%2012%20Team%20Fro%20Bro.jpg

[Mighty Dyckerson]

Every word in every language is made up.

OK, here's a word for you:

aljdoiurnzjajhowiuasjflajihasdnv (verb) - To engage in the act of aljdoiurnzjajhowiuasjflajihasdnving.


Let's everybody start using it. That way it'll end up in the dictionary.

[Dap]

I wonder why the word "freneny" caught on instead of the word "froe" (friend+foe)?

http://www.unitedway.chatham-kent.on.ca/main/campaign/Team%20Photographs%202007b/Team%2012%20Team%20Fro%20Bro.jpg

Quite funny! Are you one of those blokes?

OK, here's a word for you:

aljdoiurnzjajhowiuasjflajihasdnv (verb) - To engage in the act of aljdoiurnzjajhowiuasjflajihasdnving.


Let's everybody start using it. That way it'll end up in the dictionary.

I'm game. You must upload an audio of the pronunciation first. Really. It would be fun to see if we could coin a word and make it popular!

[TVMattNYC]

It's not an odd word. It's not a word at all.

I beg to differ, Boo.

It IS a word ... coined by Carrie Bradshaw on "Sex and the City".

[s'news]

Well that settles it.

[Dap]

I beg to differ, Boo.

It IS a word ... coined by Carrie Bradshaw on "Sex and the City".

Of course! Candice Bushnell is responsible. Do you watch Lipstick Jungle?

[Spike]

I beg to differ, Boo.

It IS a word ... coined by Carrie Bradshaw on "Sex and the City".

Oh, you mean that show that's really about gay men but use women instead to disguise itself so that straight people will watch?

[mothball]

It is an odd word.

I would say a "frienemy" (singular) is someone who professes to be your friend but undercuts or tries to outdo you, etc. and claims they're "just kidding," as an example. That is how I would see it.

http://www.imavision.com/lhop/nellie1.jpg

[TVMattNYC]

Oh, you mean that show that's really about gay men but use women instead to disguise itself so that straight people will watch?

Oh Boo ... if you'd ever actually seen the show, you'd realize how inaccurate and just plain silly that statement is.

I have the entire collection at home. Maybe we could have a little SATC party! :)

[Mighty Dyckerson]

Oh, you mean that show that's really about gay men but use women instead to disguise itself so that straight people will watch?

LOL! Good one, Boo!

[The Mockingbird]

When did we start calling Spike "Boo"?

[Spike]

Oh Boo ... if you'd ever actually seen the show, you'd realize how inaccurate and just plain silly that statement is.

I have watched the show. It doesn't make any sense, because in the real world women don't act like gay men. But if you imagine them all as gay men in drag, the show suddenly makes sense.

I have the entire collection at home.

I rest my case.

[Kace]

Boo?

http://blogs.metrowestdailynews.com/food_for_thought/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/booberry.jpg

[Dap]

I have watched the show. It doesn't make any sense, because in the real world women don't act like gay men. But if you imagine them all as gay men in drag, the show suddenly makes sense.

I rest my case.

See here now! I watched the show regularly. It was brilliant.

[TVMattNYC]

I have watched the show. It doesn't make any sense, because in the real world women don't act like gay men. But if you imagine them all as gay men in drag, the show suddenly makes sense.


You must not know very many New York women, Boo.

[Ralphie the buffalo]

You must not know very many New York women, Boo.

We know you.

[+SN]

Oh, you mean that show that's really about gay men but use women instead to disguise itself so that straight people will watch?

:cheers:

+SN

[WeatherSlave]

An enemy is just a friend who doesn't like you!

[Dap]

An enemy is just a friend who doesn't like you!

Or could it be someone who pretends to hate you, but secretly adores you?

[3.58 mHZ]

It is an odd word.

I would say a "frienemy" (singular) is someone who professes to be your friend but undercuts or tries to outdo you, etc. and claims they're "just kidding," as an example. That is how I would see it.

Differs from @sshole how?

[The Mockingbird]

It's stupid, it's a fad word. It's the lexical equivalent of those stupid half-cardigan sweaters that women wore in 2005.

[tater]

It's stupid, it's a fad word. It's the lexical equivalent of those stupid half-cardigan sweaters that women wore in 2005.

No it's like embiggens...it's a perfectly cromulent word.

[Clever Login Name]

Roy Biggins?

[The Mockingbird]

In a related story, I learned that not all seasons of "Wings" have been released on DVD yet.

[Dap]

It's stupid, it's a fad word. It's the lexical equivalent of those stupid half-cardigan sweaters that women wore in 2005.

Crop-tops? Is that what you mean?

Again, all words were made up at some point. Why sneer at some and not at others?

[22]

Again, all words were made up at some point. Why sneer at some and not at others?

Because some are just stupid. Like "frienemies."

[Another side]

Crop-tops? Is that what you mean?

Again, all words were made up at some point. Why sneer at some and not at others?

I sneer at some words. Like "usage."

[Another side]

One can go broke guessing what other people mean ... but I think Spike is saying, technically, they're not words until formally added to the dictionary. I think he's wrong, but that must be his point.

Here is the link http://valleywag.com/5022982/merriam+websters-new-dictionary-words-for-2008 to the new words Webster's added to its 2008 edition.

Among them were Texas Hold em, supercross, pretexting, and my personal favorite, wing nut.

All of those, of course, were in use much prior to 2008 and were -- despite their lack of presence in the mighty Webster's Distionary -- considered "words" by most of us in the "word" business.

[Banned_Forever]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2007-9/1280504/tank_man1989s.jpg
Frienemies......................................"I'm asking You nicely."

[s'news]

One can go broke guessing what other people mean ... but I think Spike is saying, technically, they're not words until formally added to the dictionary. I think he's wrong, but that must be his point.

Here is the link http://valleywag.com/5022982/merriam+websters-new-dictionary-words-for-2008 to the new words Webster's added to its 2008 edition.

Among them were Texas Hold em, supercross, pretexting, and my personal favorite, wing nut.

All of those, of course, were in use much prior to 2008 and were -- despite their lack of presence in the mighty Webster's Distionary -- considered "words" by most of us in the "word" business.

And yet "frienemies" wasn't one of them. Maybe next year.

[The Mockingbird]

Crop-tops? Is that what you mean?

Again, all words were made up at some point. Why sneer at some and not at others?

http://www.rachelstyle.org/images/Generra%20Crop%20Ruffle%20Cardigan.jpg

This is what I'm talking about, although the ones I remember were of a yarn-like heavy-knit material.

Many women think this shirt says to the world "I am sophisticated, I have a layered look"; what you're actually saying is, "not only am I completely irrational to the point where even my clothing doesn't make sense, but I am also absolutely desparate that you notice I have breasts."

Hint: you wear sweaters when you get cold.


As for the Frieneminic debate: forced language is the difference between the noveau riche and the aristocracy. A frienemy is the white tux at a senior prom; it is the five foot spoiler on the back of a Honda Accord. One of the intrinsic problems of mass media -- especially television -- is the tendency to jump on the latest trend, and appear to wholeheartedly support it unequivocally.

Just because something is new, doesn't mean it's a good thing. Likewise, just because you found out about something today, doesn't mean it's a new thing, either.

I hope this clears up everything.

xxoo,

The Mockingbird.

[Brain Cramp]

I thought "frienemies" was first used to describe the relationship between Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie therefore, after I threw up in my mouth a little, I promptly forgot I'd ever heard this wannabe word.

[Angel's Hell]

It is an odd word.

I would say a "frienemy" (singular) is someone who professes to be your friend but undercuts or tries to outdo you, etc. and claims they're "just kidding," as an example. That is how I would see it.

My friends are not like that but I've had "family" members who were.

There is an old adage in the middle east, the friend of my friend is my friend and the enemy of my friend is my enemy. In the US we've added the idea that it's okay to be friends with your enemy, that way you can keep an eye on them to make sure they don't backstab you!

I know I know, the US is just another world, especially in the workplace!

[The Mockingbird]

I know I know, the US is just another world, especially in the workplace!

I have absolutely no idea what idea you're trying to convey here. Are you suggesting that office politics are a uniquely American phenomenon?

[wx or not]

I know I know, the US is just another world, especially in the workplace!

...time to break out the pancake bunny!

[Mr. Rugen]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/funny-pictures-stalker-cat-will-wait-for-you.jpg

[tater]

There is an old adage in the middle east, the friend of my friend is my friend and the enemy of my friend is my enemy. In the US we've added the idea that it's okay to be friends with your enemy, that way you can keep an eye on them to make sure they don't backstab you!

I know I know, the US is just another world, especially in the workplace!

Uhhh the idea of being friends with your enemy isn't that new of an idea...observe,

“You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy. “But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. Matthew 5: 43-45

[+SN]

Or could it be someone who pretends to hate you, but secretly adores you?

Sounds like the "typical" dysfunctional westernized relationship betweem men & women today.

+SN

[TVMattNYC]

I thought "frienemies" was first used to describe the relationship between Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie therefore, after I threw up in my mouth a little, I promptly forgot I'd ever heard this wannabe word.

No. The term was coined on Sex and the City back in the '90s, before the two were born.