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imported_macfan
Mar 13th 2008, 07:34 AM
Our station is considering creating a segment for commentary. Not anchor commentary or editorial, but an opportunity for local leaders, newsmakers, or viewers to speak their minds (they will be edited for FCC violations and fact checked). Are there any stations doing this, what's the format, what do you think?

Obewon
Mar 13th 2008, 07:41 AM
I think it means your station is in big trouble

Jane Craig
Mar 13th 2008, 07:47 AM
It may also mean the year is 1958.

When I was a kid, I remember one local station doing editorials and having locals subsequently do "editorial replies." Johnny Carson built his Floyd R. Turbo (American) charater on that premise.

My opinion -- it sure won't be a reason to watch...

The Mockingbird
Mar 13th 2008, 08:20 AM
At least it's not "The Point".

Brain Cramp
Mar 13th 2008, 09:01 AM
Remember when Katie started on CBS? Remember how long their newfangled "commentary" lasted?

LENSCRAFTER
Mar 13th 2008, 09:29 AM
Reminds me of the time Julia Sugarbaker did one of those commentaries and blasted Atlanta Councilman Nelson Brickett out of the water.

!
Mar 13th 2008, 09:49 AM
Our station is considering creating a segment for commentary. Not anchor commentary or editorial, but an opportunity for local leaders, newsmakers, or viewers to speak their minds (they will be edited for FCC violations and fact checked). Are there any stations doing this, what's the format, what do you think?

I think your news hole is small enough already with taking up more of it with this sort of crap.

And they will NOT be fact-checked, because opinions aren't required to be factual. They're subjective.

imported_macfan
Mar 13th 2008, 10:04 AM
everyone really likes the idea!! I'm not sold on it, but I think it can give a voice to people who have a tough time being heard.

!- Opinions are subjective, but facts **can** be checked. I can say 'I don't like the mayor because of his stance on this issue.' But I can't say 'the mayor molests collies' without the proof to back it up..

The Mockingbird
Mar 13th 2008, 11:29 AM
Shrug.

News is a pendulum. Odds are crappy buzz terms like "interactivity" and "community involvement" are floating around your newsroom.

It's empty, meaningless crap for management to keep themselves busy while they're not accomplishing their main objective, which is taking the industry to Hell in a handbasket.

The Thrill
Mar 13th 2008, 05:07 PM
Reminds me of the time Julia Sugarbaker did one of those commentaries and blasted Atlanta Councilman Nelson Brickett out of the water.

http://epguides.com/DesigningWomen/cast.jpg

Ah, "Designing Women." The original cougars.

Sir Dropham Pants
Mar 13th 2008, 05:41 PM
I would hate to be the poor bastard in charge of booking that segment.

!
Mar 13th 2008, 06:06 PM
everyone really likes the idea!! I'm not sold on it, but I think it can give a voice to people who have a tough time being heard.

!- Opinions are subjective, but facts **can** be checked. I can say 'I don't like the mayor because of his stance on this issue.' But I can't say 'the mayor molests collies' without the proof to back it up..
But they will NOT be fact-checked.

Anyone who has worked in a newsroom for more than five minutes knows that it the first thing that will go out the window.

adam & doctor drew
Mar 13th 2008, 09:14 PM
usually those are done by GMs and NDs, otherwise known as Frustrated On-Air People Who Couldn't Get Hired So They Went Into Management.

Bureau Chief
Mar 14th 2008, 07:41 AM
I beg to differ. We have a very popular segment about once a week were viewers are encouraged to come in and talk about what's pissing them off. It has generated some interesting stories. Just because you dont like something doesnt mean its a bad idea. You do have to be careful about what makes the air, and make sure its not the local crackpot yanking your chain, but if done carefully, it can be a powerful draw in many communities. When its obvious that there is a major issue behind the viewers rant, we look into it and do a package.

You all talk a big line about finding stories not coming from the scanners or the newspaper but when someone comes up with some idea that is unusual, you waste no time in poking fun at them.

!
Mar 14th 2008, 07:52 AM
You all talk a big line about finding stories not coming from the scanners or the newspaper but when someone comes up with some idea that is unusual, you waste no time in poking fun at them.This isn't unusual. Or new. Or innovative.

It's been done for years, thanks to consultants, and generally abandoned after a while.

Hell, one station I know put camcorders in little booths in a mall so viewers could record their comments. THAT was a great idea. (If you wanted obscene gestures, racial slurs, and assorted other unuseable material.) They dumped the "unusual" idea after a few months.

It's also not a great way to find out about potential stories. Very labor and time intensive as opposed to a telephone tipline or email address.

Vulcan
Mar 14th 2008, 08:26 AM
Reminds me of the time Julia Sugarbaker did one of those commentaries and blasted Atlanta Councilman Nelson Brickett out of the water.
I quit watching Designing Women precisely because I was tired of the Thomasons using Julia Sugarbaker to preach at me. The tone of moral authority was viscous.

!
Mar 14th 2008, 08:47 AM
I quit watching Designing Women precisely because I was tired of the Thomasons using Julia Sugarbaker to preach at me. The tone of moral authority was viscous.

Her tone was of a glutinous nature or consistency; sticky; thick; adhesive?

LENSCRAFTER
Mar 14th 2008, 10:23 AM
I quit watching Designing Women precisely because I was tired of the Thomasons using Julia Sugarbaker to preach at me. The tone of moral authority was viscous.

And the odd thing was that Dixie Carter (who played Julia) had views that were many times polar opposite of the character. She has said in interviews that she went ahead with the diatribes in exchange for being able to sing in later episodes.

!
Mar 14th 2008, 10:25 AM
And the odd thing was that Dixie Carter (who played Julia) had views that were many times polar opposite of the character.
This, of course, is known as acting.

LENSCRAFTER
Mar 14th 2008, 10:39 AM
This, of course, is known as acting.

VERY GOOD!

The Thrill
Mar 14th 2008, 10:52 AM
This, of course, is known as acting.

"Brilliant!"
"Thank YOU!"

http://rawsocket.org/rtfm/images/master_thespian.jpg

Vulcan
Mar 14th 2008, 02:17 PM
Her tone was of a glutinous nature or consistency; sticky; thick; adhesive?
Thick enough you could choke on it.

Another side
Mar 14th 2008, 03:01 PM
It was a sit-com. Lighten up. It's OK to grin once in awhile.

TVMattNYC
Mar 15th 2008, 06:48 AM
I think your news hole is small enough already with taking up more of it with this sort of crap.

And they will NOT be fact-checked, because opinions aren't required to be factual. They're subjective.

Oh please.

Like East Kabum****, Anywhere really NEEDS two hours in the morning and two hours in the evening to cover all of its local news. New York can't even cover its "news hole" without resorting to all that stupid anchor chow-chow.

And who says these commentaries won't be fact-checked? It is possible for someone to voice an opinion within the confines of a professionally-edited segment.

TVMattNYC
Mar 15th 2008, 06:51 AM
I quit watching Designing Women precisely because I was tired of the Thomasons using Julia Sugarbaker to preach at me. The tone of moral authority was viscous.

I rather liked Julia's diatribes.

What really disappointed me, however, was the increasing frequency of the social messaging on the Cosby Show.

user name
Mar 16th 2008, 05:19 AM
isn't that what the "blogs" section of your station website is for? a sounding board for the opinionated and mentally unstable?

!
Mar 16th 2008, 05:22 AM
And who says these commentaries won't be fact-checked? It is possible for someone to voice an opinion within the confines of a professionally-edited segment.

There's a lack of fact checking in local TV news as it is. There is no way anyone will actually check the material submitted--they may listen to it to make sure it doesn't contain profanity, but they will not bother to actually check it for truthiness.

TVMattNYC
Mar 16th 2008, 08:39 AM
There's a lack of fact checking in local TV news as it is. There is no way anyone will actually check the material submitted--they may listen to it to make sure it doesn't contain profanity, but they will not bother to actually check it for truthiness.

So you know this for a fact?

Galaxian
Mar 18th 2008, 06:05 PM
My station does news commentaries on the weekend, featuring our station's "political expert," who is a politics professor at a nearby college. We always end his commentaries with the usual "This ain't our opinion!" disclaimer.

I'm not sure how long we've been allowing him to do the commentaries, but they seem to be a nice fit for our weekend shows. And hell, the guy is entertaining and a great soundbite machine for any political stories.

The Mockingbird
Mar 19th 2008, 03:42 AM
Anything that isn't a test pattern is good for the wekeend shows, ha ha.

!
Mar 19th 2008, 03:48 AM
So you know this for a fact?

No, because it wasn't checked.

Vulcan
Mar 19th 2008, 07:06 AM
I rather liked Julia's diatribes.

What really disappointed me, however, was the increasing frequency of the social messaging on the Cosby Show.
I agree. Cosby got viscous too.

Who Cares???
Mar 26th 2008, 08:37 PM
This thread scares me....

I basically never watch television. Never had one growing up, and neither has my kids... I guess what I'm saying is that everything that being said here is way over my head.

Funny... my whole life in the industry... who'd a thunk it...???