What Do You Do About Those Who Call in Sick Tomorrow? [Archive]

Brain Cramp

Dec 31st 2007, 04:58 AM

Does your shop get flooded with scheduled staff calling in sick on New Year's Day? If so, do you assume that these folks are really just too hung over or still drunk and can't work?

I'll admit this is an issue that pushes my buttons. I think it's incredibly irreponsible for someone to drink themselves silly knowing that they have to work the next day. I've drank my fair share on New Year's Eve over the years but I'm enough of an adult to know when to say "when," especially when I have to be coherent the next day.

Is it that important to you to drink on New Year's Eve that you'd risk being incapacitated and unable to perform your duties the next day? Should people who call in sick on New Year's Day be held accountable for proving their "illness" or do you just chalk it up to what it is and move on into the new year?

TVMattNYC

Dec 31st 2007, 05:04 AM

Fargin Icehole

Dec 31st 2007, 05:08 AM

Calling in sick on a day like New Year's should result in being docked a week's vacation.

NO excuses.

Yes, that's right ... come to work sick if you must. And don't even start with that "oh but my KIDS are sick" BS.

That's what a SPOUSE is for.
...unless the spose works as well. But that's a debate for another time.

Anyway, "spouse" and "kids" don't exactly go hand-in-hand these days.

sleet10

Dec 31st 2007, 05:22 AM

Marty McFly

Dec 31st 2007, 05:26 AM

The 'problem' is that you're in a new year... with new sick time to use and abuse!

If it were that important to companies and tv stations to have people work on certain holidays, especially ones where people may call in sick, there should be incentives to NOT call in sick.

Namely... buy back the unused sick time.

newz2me

Dec 31st 2007, 05:29 AM

What can you do? People get sick. If they have sick days to use then there's not much you can do. Are they sick? Probably not. But do you want to show up at their door with a thermometer? All you can do is ask them if they would please drag their butt in anyway. Yes it is irresponsible to get so hammered where you cannot come in but people do legitimately get sick. You just have to accept their excuse and mentally file it away. If they show a pattern of calling in sick after a holiday or a lot of sick days on Fridays or Mondays then we have a problem.
As far as the kid is sick excuse it does happen. My kid was sick Christmas day with a 102 fever. My wife just got back to work on the 17th after being out a week for surgery. She had no sick days and would have to take an unpaid day off not to mention pissing off her bosses. While I have sick days to burn. However I choose NOT to stay home because of how bad it looks and I was already filling in for someone who I knew was on vacation. It financially hurts especially since 2 of her surgery days were unpaid to begin with. Now we have to add another one?!! But it does happen and people have good reasons. The day after New Years or any other holiday is just another day and sickness doesn't play favorites.

Sir Dropham Pants

Dec 31st 2007, 06:28 AM

hate to rain on the parade, if you drink and you get sick, YOU ARE SICK, whether you planned it or not. Really, New Year's Day shows (mornings) should not exist, NO ONE IS WATCHING. Hell, for the matter, there are so many football games on, they should not even have evening news, no one cares. Happy New Year to everyone.

BUT - if there is a New Year's Morning show, and you're scheduled to work it, drinking to the point of getting sick the night before is irresponsible and unprofessional. Yes, you are sick, but if I were the poor SOB who had to fill in for the person who drank himself sick the night before having to work, I'd be one angry dude.

Diplomat

Dec 31st 2007, 07:16 AM

BUT - if there is a New Year's Morning show, and you're scheduled to work it, drinking to the point of getting sick the night before is irresponsible and unprofessional. Yes, you are sick, but if I were the poor SOB who had to fill in for the person who drank himself sick the night before having to work, I'd be one angry dude.

It is as if they're almost PLANNING to be sick. And you'd be right to be angry.

I like Marty's idea of buying back sick time.

TV Dad

Dec 31st 2007, 08:46 AM

Yes it is irresponsible to get so hammered where you cannot come in but people do legitimately get sick. You just have to accept their excuse and mentally file it away. If they show a pattern of calling in sick after a holiday or a lot of sick days on Fridays or Mondays then we have a problem.

That's the key right there. Is this a one time thing or part of someone's overall pattern of disregard for their job? The only reason this is even a problem is because too often it's pattern behavior, but isn't treated as such.

adam & doctor drew

Dec 31st 2007, 08:51 AM

should people who call in sick on New Year's Day be held accountable for proving their "illness" or do you just chalk it up to what it is and move on into the new year?

how exactly would you like them to "prove" their illlness?

CKMD

Dec 31st 2007, 09:18 AM

how exactly would you like them to "prove" their illlness?

You can't.
As a manager, you follow patterns. You write it down, keep it to yourself and watch the pattern. If calling in sick on days after you know there was a big party becomes an issue, there are legal ways to deal with that employee.

We all know people who do this...or take planned sick days.
But, companies should be more vigilant...I agree with TV Matt: if you call in sick on a holiday, you have to bring a doctor's note. It's not my problem if you can't get one...if you can't, you get docked pay.

Chicago Dog

Dec 31st 2007, 09:38 AM

You right it down, ...

"Right?"

Are you in a management position?

Dec 31st 2007, 09:49 AM

hate to rain on the parade, if you drink and you get sick, YOU ARE SICK, whether you planned it or not. Really, New Year's Day shows (mornings) should not exist, NO ONE IS WATCHING. Hell, for the matter, there are so many football games on, they should not even have evening news, no one cares. Happy New Year to everyone.

Doesn't matter.

Should you get paid less for working on days when "no one is watching"?

Your job is your job. You work when you are scheduled.

Or you get fired and let someone who is willing to work do it.

hate to rain on the parade, if you drink and you get sick, YOU ARE SICK, whether you planned it or not.

Hate to rain on your parade, but responsible adults don't do this when they are supposed to work the next day.

Attitudes like your are why companies can justify eliminating paid sick days. If kids like you abuse them, you lose them. Then you get stay home as much as you want...without pay.

sleet10

Dec 31st 2007, 11:41 AM

Nice to see the reaction to this post. Thanks for calling me a kid, I enjoy that. Just to put the record straight, I am older than dirt. Anyway, since being in the business for 13 years, I have taken 1 (one) thats right one sick day in all that time, not to be a martar, but I rarely get sick and getting someone to fill in for me on short notice is next to impossible. Listen, I agree that calling in sick on a holiday when one is scheduled to work is a load of crap, BUT, it is going to happen whether management likes it or not and keeping record of it (pattern) may just get someone fired, however, fire someone, got to train someone else for the lousy pay, etc, etc. It is a viscious circle. Management in our station has a hard enough time keeping people around due to the fab pay.

News Is Broken

Dec 31st 2007, 11:51 AM

Nice to see the reaction to this post. Thanks for calling me a kid, I enjoy that.

I wouldn't take it personally. He's a curmudgeon - says so right there under his name.

jrat33

Dec 31st 2007, 11:53 AM

Calling in sick on a day like New Year's should result in being docked a week's vacation.

NO excuses.

If we are talking legit illness, I say keep your butt at home. Don't get the rest of the newsroom (or work place) sick. Don't play the hero. The company gives you sick time. Use it. News Directors that get upset that people take time off for being legitimately sick (flu, pnemonia, etc.) are idiots. That leads to people who are sick coming in and getting the rest of the newsroom sick. Newsrooms are worse than daycares when it comes to passing around germs.

Here in state gov't, if you call in sick the day before a holiday, you don't get paid for the holiday unless you can provide a legit sickness excuse.

News Is Broken

Dec 31st 2007, 12:03 PM

Feed them to The Thing:
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/08/73_Thing_LH_Frt_Qtr.jpg

Sir Dropham Pants

Dec 31st 2007, 01:00 PM

thanks for the pic of my favorite car ever, NIB. "iViva la cosa! Hecho en Mexico!"

SamG

Dec 31st 2007, 01:25 PM

Why does it make a difference that it's New Year's?

I produced the morning show when I got married. Morning crew took me out to my bachelor's party at 1pm on a Thursday. Wrapped up around 6, and went back to the station to get in our cars (I wasn't driving:cheers:).

I wasn't let out of the car and the EVENING crew came out and took me out AGAIN. Naturally, a lot of drinks were consumed, including shots (note plural) bought by the ND. Finally beg out around 10pm (scheduled in at 1am). Get back to the apartment and my wife (then fiancee) wakes me up at midnight. I literally can't move.

I call in sick and the AE says "you will be in". I refuse. The 11pm producer from Thursday gets called back in to work Friday morning because the noon producer (normal fill-in) wouldn't answer her phone. I take the 11pm producer's Saturday morning shift.

Wedding on Sunday, honeymoon the following week, do the morning show the first Monday back, get called into the NDs office and get a two day suspension.:mad:

So, surprise bachelor party + boss buying shots + noon producer not answering phone = 2 day suspension.

This story is now part of station lore... oh yea, I'm still here. That was 14 years ago.

RollTide98

Dec 31st 2007, 01:49 PM

If you're my station, you consult the on-call schedule... Then ignore it... And call me in.

News Is Broken

Dec 31st 2007, 01:54 PM

If you're my station, you consult the on-call schedule... Then ignore it... And call me in.

Sounds like everywhere else I've always worked. Which reminds me, what's your phone number again? ;)

MyracleMan

Dec 31st 2007, 05:10 PM

If you're my station, you consult the on-call schedule... Then ignore it... And call me in.
Are you me? When did I change my screen name? I'm so confused...

how exactly would you like them to "prove" their illlness?
Doctor's note. I don't care if you're puking your guts out, get down to the local clinic, get a doc to say you've got the flu/cold/pneumonia/gonaherpasyphillAIDS or whetever, and bring it in on your next scheduled day. If you don't do that, you're docked a day's pay, sick leave or not.

ewink

Dec 31st 2007, 10:10 PM

I like Marty's idea of buying back sick time.
The only problem with that is that it encourages people to come in when they ARE sick, making everyone else sick which annoys me more than extra workload.

As for the calling in sick... one station I worked at would not give you holiday pay if you called in sick on the holiday, or the day before/after depending on if you were scheduled to work it or not.

Usually made sure people wouldn't call in unless they were really sick (if that happened and you brought in a doctor's note, you got your holiday pay).

SamG

Jan 1st 2008, 04:53 AM

Usually made sure people wouldn't call in unless they were really sick (if that happened and you brought in a doctor's note, you got your holiday pay).
How in the heck are you supposed to get a doctor's note on a holiday? Go to the ER because you've got the flu? Yea, that makes sense.:frustrated:

Angel's Hell

Jan 1st 2008, 05:18 AM

I like news2me's idea of showing up at someone's door with a thermometer!

Jan 1st 2008, 05:22 AM

I literally can't move.

I call in sick
How did you do this if you "literally" couldn't move?

Vulcan

Jan 1st 2008, 08:58 AM

It took me a while to find the attached cartoon.

Why the assumption that every sick caller is somehow gaming the system? Do you have stats to back it up?

ewink

Jan 1st 2008, 09:32 AM

How in the heck are you supposed to get a doctor's note on a holiday? Go to the ER because you've got the flu? Yea, that makes sense.:frustrated:

Go the next day?

Another side

Jan 1st 2008, 09:48 AM

Calling in sick on a day like New Year's should result in being docked a week's vacation.

NO excuses.

... your union would say about that?

SamG

Jan 1st 2008, 10:05 AM

How did you do this if you "literally" couldn't move?
I actually had my fiancee do it. Sorry I mispoke.:p

SamG

Jan 1st 2008, 10:08 AM

Go the next day?
So you're sick with the flu (the runs, migraine, whatever) today (hypothetically) and you need a doctor's note... so now you need to miss part of the day tomorrow in order to go get said note? Sorry, not buying it.

If a company offers "sick days", then holidays/weekends shouldn't be treated any different than any other day. If you require a doctor's note year-round, fine. But it shouldn't be different based on when the sick day is taken.

Sigonfile

Jan 1st 2008, 11:12 AM

If you call in sick as a result of partying...I suggest you confer with your HR and get help for your "drinking problems". When you get older, you will understand the responsibilities that you must take in your life.

Spike

Jan 1st 2008, 11:19 AM

It's simple. A manager who requires a note from a doctor on ANY sick day hates his employees. If I'm sick with the flu or a stomach virus, I want to stay home. The last thing I want to do is go sit in an uncomfortable doctor's office (and when have you EVER been in a comfortable doctor's office or clinic?) waiting for him to tell me I have the flu, which I already know.

Further, if you're going to require your employees to have a doctor's note, then you should pick up the cost of the visit. Why should it cost them money to satisfy you that they're sick? People who work in broadcasting already make too little money and usually have pretty crappy insurance, so you should be prepared to reimburse them for the copay on the doctor's visit.

If you have employees who take advantage of your sick policy and call in sick after a bender, then it seems to me that the problem lies not with the employees, but with your own hiring decisions. Hire better people, and you won't have that problem. Pay better wages, and you'll be able to hire better people.

Spike

Jan 1st 2008, 11:28 AM

And another thing.

This whining about people calling in sick on holidays is also a symptom of bad management. I've never worked in a shop where there weren't plenty of volunteers ready to work the holidays. But I HAVE worked in shops where idiotic managers refused to let the volunteers work and scheduled people who didn't want to be there to work instead, as some kind of "lesson" or "punishment." If those people don't show up, it's your own damned fault for trying to prove some kind of point.

And if you're having trouble getting volunteers, well, that's your fault too. It's easy to get volunteers if you provide the right incentives. I have worked at stations where people essentially got 2.5 time on holidays. They got time and a half holiday pay, plus an extra eight hours of pay for the holiday they missed. Those stations never have trouble getting people to volunteer to work. Oh, sure, that decision is most likely made above your head. But don't take it out on your employees because your company is too cheap to treat people the way they should be treated.

Head Janitor

Jan 1st 2008, 12:02 PM

Damn Spike, your life in television must have sucked...hard! I have been at several stations and never had a manager put someone on a holiday as punishment. It almost always goes on a first come or seniority basis.

From my experience, management knows who will call in 'fake sick' on a holiday. Most of these idiots telegraph their punches. They are also normally the people who are sick the day before vacation starts and the day after it ends.

And just a reminder to those who do call in sick: it doesn't hurt management. Unless it is a small market, the only people it really hurts is the person or persons who cover for the sicko.

As for the original question: I would tell that person that I hope s/he feels better, and will be calling on him/her through out the day to check in, see how everything is going, see if s/he is feeling good enough to come in and work a night shift.

Spike

Jan 1st 2008, 12:15 PM

Damn Spike, your life in television must have sucked...hard! I have been at several stations and never had a manager put someone on a holiday as punishment. It almost always goes on a first come or seniority basis.

One of the excuses I got when I volunteered to work was that I was getting too much overtime. Why the hell should that matter? You could be paying me overtime, or you could be paying overtime at roughly the same rate to someone else who didn't want to be there. I saw reporters get turned down with the same stupid excuse.

It was all power play. If an employee wants the day off, you make him work to demonstrate your power over him. You do it just because you can. If an employee wants to work, you don't let him, just to show him that he works when YOU say, not when he wants to.

It's management through intimidation. These morons think that by doing these things, they maintain better control over their operations. I think most of them don't even realize why they're doing it. They just learned from their own bad managers from the past that that's the way you keep control of your newsroom, by breaking the wills of your employees at every turn.

It's funny to then hear them complain about turnabout. You hire bad people for cheap or treat the good ones like sh*t, you get what you deserve.

cinehead

Jan 1st 2008, 01:52 PM

Are you me? When did I change my screen name? I'm so confused...

Doctor's note. I don't care if you're puking your guts out, get down to the local clinic, get a doc to say you've got the flu/cold/pneumonia/gonaherpasyphillAIDS or whetever, and bring it in on your next scheduled day. If you don't do that, you're docked a day's pay, sick leave or not.

Maybe. But if you're at a union station, that type of think would need to be part of the collective bargaining agreement. One manager on their own can't suddenly start demanding doctor's notes.

Pregnant Reporter

Jan 1st 2008, 05:00 PM

I agree, if you know you've go to work, limit your drinks, go home early, stay in, whatever. It's not like it's your first New Year's Eve and it won't be your last. And most stations don't put you on the same holiday two years in a row.

What sucks is when you ARE sick, and you're afraid to call in sick, because you know it LOOKS like you're hungover. But even then, if you're sick, you probably looked and sounded sick the days before. So you should act as sick as you can, and sound as pathetic and scratchy as you can to lay out your situation, just in case. But last time I checked, according to HR, you can't be forced to provide a sick note. Like someone else said, if you're a habitual offender, management is building a paper trail on your habits and it will catch up with you.

And speaking of good management- on Y2K New Year's Eve, pretty much everybody worked because, you know, the world was going to end and all that. I was incredibly sick with a chest cold/sinus infection combo. So I took my non-drowsy drugs and went to work for my nightshift, which was a 1pm-3am because the station had a "Y2K Plan" in place with longer hours. Our city was having a street party for 8 jillion people so we had managers, interns and runners downtown to shuttle tapes, batteries, etc between the live locations, field produce and just to be on hand for whatever. There was a shot bar set up on one of the corners next to our live location, and the EP was buying shots for the crews. I'm not too goody good to take a shot on New Year's Eve, but I was too sick. The next day, everybody showed up for work, even though some of them were drinking pretty much their whole shift, plus the sports guys (who lived together) had a party that night that went till something like 6am...

The same EP who was buying shots put together a memo to the News Director thanking everybody for their committment and professionalism the night before, for not complaining for the long hours scheduled over the holiday and how much he respected the staff for its team work. Then, since there was no big Y2K event and we were severely overstaffed, he sent people home from the day shift. I was called at home and told I didn't have to come in for my nightshift and others were too. I was relieved, because I was going to go to work sick, but it sure was a happy ending to what was going to be a crappy and long three days!

Ralphie the buffalo

Jan 1st 2008, 06:48 PM

There was a shot bar set up on one of the corners next to our live location, and the EP was buying shots for the crews.

Holy Cow!!! Now this thread is taking an unexpected turn.

A manager was buying shot for the crews while they were working? That is just incredibly stupid on so many levels. I don't care if it was New Years Eve.

Would some of our manager-types care to comment on this?

+SN

Jan 1st 2008, 10:27 PM

Another side

Jan 1st 2008, 11:55 PM

Holy Cow!!! Now this thread is taking an unexpected turn.

A manager was buying shot for the crews while they were working? That is just incredibly stupid on so many levels. I don't care if it was New Years Eve.

Would some of our manager-types care to comment on this?

... I'd have to decide whether this was a fireable offense. There would certainly be -- at least -- a non-paid suspension in the EP's immediate future.

Calling it "stupid" was kind; "Reckless" and "Irresponsible" also come to mind.

Bandit

Jan 2nd 2008, 01:52 AM

What about going to a PTO system, where no distinction is made between sick days and vacation days? By doing this, the company does have to pay any PTO balance to the employee when they separate from the company, but doing so does provide some incentive to the employee to act responsibly.

I know it's easy to shoot holes in a PTO system - but when you think about it, any system you set up can be gamed. It all comes back to whether or not you're a responsible, thoughtful co-worker.

Brain Cramp

Jan 2nd 2008, 03:41 AM

Why the assumption that every sick caller is somehow gaming the system? Do you have stats to back it up?

The only assumption I'm making is that your post is directed at me since I started the thread. I am all for allowing sick people to stay home. That's where they should be. I was suggesting in my original post that there are probably people who drink on New Year's Eve knowing full well that they may not be able to fulfill their duties at work the next day. I then asked if people found this to be true in their newsrooms and if so, whether there were or should be accountability on the part of those who called in sick.

The thread was prompted by a comment I read on another thread ... don't remember which one, but someone mentioned that at work on New Year's morning a producer had gotten blotto the night before and spent her shift vomiting into a wastebasket.

I can't think of a place of employment that allows its employees to be drunk on the job. I was wondering aloud whether employees in news get a pass on New Year's Day because New Year's Eve offers traditions of drinking. Is it OK for an employee to call in because they're still too drunk to work? Or too hung over to work? Are these legitimate excuses to miss work? That's what I was asking and it has led to an interesting discussion about the topic, I believe.

So, no I have no stats to introduce. But then again, the intent of the thread was to ask these questions not to make a statement of fact.

Vulcan

Jan 2nd 2008, 06:57 AM

The only assumption I'm making is that your post is directed at me since I started the thread. I am all for allowing sick people to stay home. That's where they should be. I was suggesting in my original post that there are probably people who drink on New Year's Eve knowing full well that they may not be able to fulfill their duties at work the next day. I then asked if people found this to be true in their newsrooms and if so, whether there were or should be accountability on the part of those who called in sick.

The thread was prompted by a comment I read on another thread ... don't remember which one, but someone mentioned that at work on New Year's morning a producer had gotten blotto the night before and spent her shift vomiting into a wastebasket.

I can't think of a place of employment that allows its employees to be drunk on the job. I was wondering aloud whether employees in news get a pass on New Year's Day because New Year's Eve offers traditions of drinking. Is it OK for an employee to call in because they're still too drunk to work? Or too hung over to work? Are these legitimate excuses to miss work? That's what I was asking and it has led to an interesting discussion about the topic, I believe.

So, no I have no stats to introduce. But then again, the intent of the thread was to ask these questions not to make a statement of fact.
The statement was not directed at you, nor was I asking for stats.

The fact of the matter is that newsrooms are populated with people who can't do math, and that goes for the managers who can't understand why 40% of sick days are taken on Mondays and Fridays.

My somewhat rhetorical question was aimed at those who leap to the conclusion that someone calling in sick on New Years Day is really just irresponsible and hung over.

Oh, and Matt... on New Years Day this year, I had two kids and a wife all still on antibiotics recovering from bronchitis. I'm glad I was off, and not working in television. ;)

CKMD

Jan 2nd 2008, 08:16 AM

"Right?"

Are you in a management position?

OH NO....a mistake on a forum!!!! Damn...I guess I'm going RIGHT to hell, huh?

Are you in an ******* position? let's guess....a nobody AP for Chicagoland Television? Good luck with that.:moon:

CKMD

Jan 2nd 2008, 08:20 AM

i'm in touch, so you be in touch

Jan 2nd 2008, 08:53 AM

Really, New Year's Day shows (mornings) should not exist, NO ONE IS WATCHING. Hell, for the matter, there are so many football games on, they should not even have evening news, no one cares.

You clearly should not be in the news business at all. You clearly do not care about your viewers or your product. You should always put out the best product possible, even if you only have ONE viewer. Seriously, take a little pride in what you do.

FD2BLK

Jan 2nd 2008, 09:01 AM

From my experience, management knows who will call in 'fake sick' on a holiday. Most of these idiots telegraph their punches.

Eighteen years and two shops ago, the entire evening news staff had a pool going as to when the overnight MC op would call in sick on Christmas. I missed by twenty minutes. He didn't last.

News Is Broken

Jan 2nd 2008, 09:12 AM

You clearly should not be in the news business at all. You clearly do not care about your viewers or your product. You should always put out the best product possible, even if you only have ONE viewer. Seriously, take a little pride in what you do.

While I agree with the sentiment behind this, if you only have ONE viewer you won't be doing what you do for very long....

rootboyslim

Jan 3rd 2008, 02:28 AM

As for patterns, docking them a week's pay, et al, I will say this. I went seven years without calling in sick. There was no pattern because I just didn't do it. I had the exact same mindset. I thought and knew people called in sick all the time for "mental health" days or to nurse a hangover. Not me.

Then one NY Eve I was working until six and was having a small get together at my home with my newlywed AND I had to work the next day, NY Day. At lunch I got this horrible pain on my left abdominal side. It was fine wheil I sat, but when I stood the pain was unreal. I thought it would go away.

That night, friends start coming over, about ten in all, and the pain gets worse. I have a fever. I am in bed from 7 p.m. until the morning. My wife entertains.

I call in sick an the ND wants a doctor's note. WHat a crock of crap, but I do it anyway. I stay sick a SECOND day to get to the doc's when it opens. I find I had a bout with divraticulitis.

So the ND puts no trust in me and I get two days off instead of one. ANd it does happne that people get sick.

ANd a hangover is not the same as being sick.

Chicago Dog

Jan 6th 2008, 06:31 PM

OH NO....a mistake on a forum!!!! Damn...I guess I'm going RIGHT to hell, huh?

No, not just a forum. A glaringly obvious mistake among people in the business of communication.

Are you in an ******* position? let's guess....a nobody AP for Chicagoland Television? Good luck with that.:moon:

Actually, if you did a little clicking around, you'd have an answer. Of course, I don't really expect someone who doesn't know the difference between "right" and "write" to do a tiny bit of research. Here's a hint: see the "location" line between "join date" and "posts" in that left-hand column underneath my name? Start there.

I suppose it's pretty embarrassing that a shooter's grammar is better than yours. So, here you go (http://www.amazon.com/Merriam-Websters-Dictionary-English-Usage-Merriam-Webster/dp/0877791325/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199676459&sr=8-4).

I thought and knew people called in sick all the time for "mental health" days or to nurse a hangover. Not me.

I never really understood the point of "mental health days." One of my stations gave employees anywhere from one to three mental health days. If you're bad enough that you need a break from work, a day or three isn't going to cut it.

I've seen folks call in for the most bull**** reasons. It's disrespectful to your coworkers. They're doing more work because of someone else's inability to stop killing their liver.

Roy Hobbs

Jan 6th 2008, 06:38 PM

OH NO....a mistake on a forum!!!! Damn...I guess I'm going RIGHT to hell, huh?

let's guess....a nobody AP for Chicagoland Television? Good luck with that.:moon:

CLTV = Children Learning Television

Chicago Dog

Jan 7th 2008, 05:36 PM

CLTV = Children Learning Television

Once again (and I'm sure you used to this happening): you're wrong.

I'm somewhat flattered by the attention, but you kids really need something else to do with your time. It's sad, really.

CKMD

Jan 7th 2008, 06:57 PM

Here's a hint: see the "location" line between "join date" and "posts" in that left-hand column underneath my name? Start there.

I suppose it's pretty embarrassing that a shooter's grammar is better than yours.

Oh...so you're just an ******* photog from CLTV?
And why would I be embarrassed if a photog corrects me? Are you that down on yourself? Sad...but, I bet you're union as well...thinking for yourself isn't a top trait.

You know what you should do with your time? Learn to shoot decent video.