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forecastguy
Dec 3rd 2007, 11:24 AM
My station may be adding a full-time weather producer opening shortly. We're the #2 station in the #1 market... Looking to grow!

The producer I'm looking for has at least 2 years in television - either on-air, or as a weather producer.

There is ***no*** opportunity for fill-in on air work here, so don't even bother if that's what you really want to do. But if you want a decent behind-the-scenes job with room for growth, this may be a good step.

Required:
BS in meteorology or equivalent
2 years at a commercial television station

Desired:
Familiarity with Northeast geography & meteorology
Proficiency operating WSI software and live radar.

PM me for details.

Bureau Chief
Dec 3rd 2007, 03:50 PM
Ok got to ask. If there is no possiblity of moving to an on-air slot or filling in at least, why are you asking for at least two years experience on-air?? Most people dont want to go downward, they want to move up!

Ping-Pong Ball
Dec 3rd 2007, 04:00 PM
Ok got to ask. If there is no possiblity of moving to an on-air slot or filling in at least, why are you asking for at least two years experience on-air?? Most people dont want to go downward, they want to move up!

Two years experience gives you the know how to get the job done while working under the pressure of deadlines & live TV.

Two years will give you the know how of what makes good graphics for TV, how to produce a weather story, what colors work visually, and the mastering of the weather system you are using.

Taking a wx producer's job is not necessarily a step down.

forecastguy
Dec 3rd 2007, 04:04 PM
I asked for 2 years of experience in television - either on air or behind the scenes...

This is not an entry level position. And for what it's worth, it will probably pay higher than the average on-air job with 4-5 years of experience, even when adjusted for cost of living.

And as far as looking at weather producing as "moving downward," all I have to say is keep thinking that... Personally, as a weather producer, I make more than most chief mets on this board.

Red Rover
Dec 3rd 2007, 04:13 PM
How much forecasting does a producer do?

forecastguy
Dec 3rd 2007, 04:19 PM
Most of our on-air folks are non-mets, so there is *ample* opportunity for producers to forecast.

Al Bedo
Dec 4th 2007, 09:07 AM
Hey forecastguy, check your PMs. Thanks!

tv4(mer)caster
Dec 6th 2007, 06:11 PM
You are using my line for your sig......



:-)

nywx10
Dec 6th 2007, 06:25 PM
You are using my line for your sig......



:-)

WoHo! Look what the cat dragged in! :)

forecastguy
Dec 20th 2007, 03:06 PM
*BUMP*

The position is approved, and is a full-time position. PM me for details, we are looking to fill it ASAP!!!

forecastguy
Dec 20th 2007, 03:10 PM
And just a reminder, because several people have asked... This is an off-air position!!! No opportinity for fill-in.

cuontv
Dec 20th 2007, 03:18 PM
If you saw my on-air skills.....you would want me to fill in....HA! and I'm a degreed met

Gig 'em!

qryche
Dec 21st 2007, 01:40 AM
If you saw my on-air skills.....you would want me to fill in....HA! and I'm a degreed met

Gig 'em!

ahhh yes...you're still a legend in your own mind...

cuontv
Dec 21st 2007, 12:03 PM
ahhh yes...you're still a legend in your own mind...

Are you still freelancing......full time in Austin? Working the flee-markets in Wimberly? Retired and old?hmmmmmmmmm... hope you have a great XAMS

Bureau Chief
Dec 22nd 2007, 07:12 AM
Not trying to stir the pot or be a butthole, but it just seems to be a waste of talent to have an experienced met sitting around behind the scenes while your admitted non-mets are on air and you have to have someone producing and forecasting for them. Assuming of course that anyone you hire has the on-air skills. So if I am reading this right, you are looking for a forecaster to build your shows and make your forecasts so that your "faces" dont have to. As I said, I am not trying to start a fight. I just have a problem with forecast teams who cant.....forecast! If you are giving the weather, you should have had to pass Thermodynamics. I was offered an on-air position a while back at wackowx's old station but turned it down. One wx fraud in the market is enough! LOL

neweatherman
Dec 22nd 2007, 07:56 AM
Maybe there is not enough good looking smart/talented Meteorologists out there.

Tornadocane
Dec 22nd 2007, 08:54 AM
they say "experienced met. but don't expect to be on-air so thus, you won't get paid like an on-air personality"..however, what management is really saying is, " we will keep this person behind the scenes and since they aren't on-air, we won't pay them all that high,..but........if someone calls in sick or gets seriously hurt or can't perform on-air duties that particular day...then they are there and we don't have to pay them top market salary to do the same work"

rdale
Dec 22nd 2007, 09:39 AM
Nice story tornadocaner, but doesn't the ** line in the first post make that invalid?

Tornadocane
Dec 22nd 2007, 09:48 AM
rdale: Im just living in a fantasy world of mine :) But, I do know someone who was told the same thing...was in market 130'ish and made the jump to a top 35 market to just "produce"...and they're now on-air 5 days a week.

forecastguy
Dec 22nd 2007, 12:26 PM
Look folks, I don't make the rules, I just play by them...

But seriously, if I had the opportunity to work for 50-75k a few years out of school instead of the 19k I was making on air back then, I would have taken it in a heartbeat. And I'd really be kicking myself if I screwed myself out of that job opportunity because of a preconceived judgemental attitude about the job.

BTW - I am making **way** more than 75k now - behind the scenes full time... I know at least five weather producers who made/make more than 75k.

I don't look down my nose at those of you who are struggling at Wal-Mart-like salaries trying to break through on air because I have been there too. However, it is a little hurtful to me, as someone who has fought with my managment to create a professional position with a very liveable wage, to offer you all advance notice of the position, and to politely answer all your questions... only to have you publicly demean the work and the people who do behind the scenes work.

nywx10
Dec 22nd 2007, 03:07 PM
Look folks, I don't make the rules, I just play by them...

But seriously, if I had the opportunity to work for 50-75k a few years out of school instead of the 19k I was making on air back then, I would have taken it in a heartbeat. And I'd really be kicking myself if I screwed myself out of that job opportunity because of a preconceived judgemental attitude about the job.


Apparently, my post didn't make it, but I totally agree, here. Just dealing with small minds who think they know it all.


BTW - I am making **way** more than 75k now - behind the scenes full time... I know at least five weather producers who made/make more than 75k.

I don't look down my nose at those of you who are struggling at Wal-Mart-like salaries trying to break through on air because I have been there too. However, it is a little hurtful to me, as someone who has fought with my managment to create a professional position with a very liveable wage, to offer you all advance notice of the position, and to politely answer all your questions... only to have you publicly demean the work and the people who do behind the scenes work.

Thats why they always be #2!


They probably couldn't survive in a major market ON or OFF air. Realize, FG, they are legends- in their own minds!

Case in point, the wx producer at our shop WAS just that, a producer, now he has become a 5th extra body who we can call on in a pinch, and we do.

forecastguy
Dec 27th 2007, 07:34 PM
*BUMP*

Update on the position(s) on the following thread:
http://openline.medialine.com/showthread.php?t=19552

neweatherman
Dec 28th 2007, 04:28 AM
Jay,
Your a smart man and have moved up the ladder.

Some people don't move up the ladder, looking back at my days in elmira and a salary at 14,000. I would take a full time producing job. Get big market experience, hey newbies, working behind the scences counts as experience. A weather producers Job is very important. You don't get the glory but its can be very rewarding.

Plus working in a big market you really get to learn how the biz works..Plus while working behind the scences you practice and practice.. and make a better tape and who knows.. somebody knows somebody and you have a great job...

TAFKA wacowx
Dec 28th 2007, 05:10 AM
Jay,
Your a smart man and have moved up the ladder.

Some people don't move up the ladder, looking back at my days in elmira and a salary at 14,000. I would take a full time producing job. Get big market experience, hey newbies, working behind the scences counts as experience. A weather producers Job is very important. You don't get the glory but its can be very rewarding.

Plus working in a big market you really get to learn how the biz works..Plus while working behind the scences you practice and practice.. and make a better tape and who knows.. somebody knows somebody and you have a great job...

Don't forget the great connections you can make...and with working for a network O&O, you can possibly move throughout the company. There are so many reasons to look into this job for someone in a small or even mid market it's unfathomable to me how many people here are poo-pooing it. Keep on making less than $30K as long as you can remain "on-air" and feed the ego. So what if you can make 2 to 3 times as much elsewhere. :doh: