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Bureau Chief
Dec 2nd 2007, 08:24 AM
As a former firefighter, I can appriciate the possibilities of this new radio warning system but I think more needs to be done to make sure the public understands that this AINT a weather alert radio. Especially since this is the center of severe weather country.
What do you think? They plan to broadcast wx alerts on there but EMA officials will decide what warnings to broadcast. That sounds like a lawyers wet dream. Someones house is leveled in a storm they failed to pass on a warning on and the law suits will fly.
Heres the article.

New radio system ready for public

By Kevin Hassler

Associate Editor



A donation from Integris Bass Baptist Health Center has the ball rolling; now Mike Honigsberg is hoping other organizations come on board to help fund a new type of emergency warning system.

The $6,000 Integris donated has paid for equipment set up on the Williams Broadcasting radio tower for the viaRadio warning system, said Honigsberg, emergency management director for the city of Enid and Garfield County.

“Without that initial funding, this wouldn’t be happening,” he said.

The viaRadio system works over FM radio in tandem with clock radios, purchased from viaRadio, a company based in Melbourne, Fla., that have emergency warning system chips in them.

Honigsberg, who also is chairman of Garfield County Local Emergency Planning Committee, said he is ready to demonstrate the system to any civic group or organization interested. He’s hoping groups step forward to fund the purchase of the $100 radios to put in schools, nursing homes and businesses.

“We want to put these where people are congregating,” he said. “We want these where people are.”

His first priority is to have the radios in schools. Anyone making a donation to fund radios, though, can specify where they would want the radios to go, he said, including schools, nursing homes and daycare centers.

“However an organization wants these radios distributed, is how we will do it,” he said.

Any organization or business making a substantial donation, Honigsberg said, can have its logo put on the radios it funds. Integris will have its logo on radios for making the initial equipment donation.

Private citizens, too, will have the opportunity to buy the radios and receive such warnings as weather alerts or Amber Alerts, Honigsberg said. Emergency management officials would have to determine what warnings would be sent out to the public, he said.

A variety of warnings can be sent out on the radios, and they can be targeted to specific groups. For instance, Enid Fire Department plans to purchase radios for all members of its hazardous materials unit. In the event of an emergency requiring those firefighters, Honigsberg said, an alert can be sent specifically to those radios, telling the hazmat-trained personnel to report for duty.

In fact, warnings can be tailored to more than 4,000 groups that can be programmed into the system, Honigsberg said.

The system is accessed through the Internet, he said, but in the event that access is not possible, he could go to the Williams Broadcasting tower and hook into the system there and send out warnings.

Because the broadcast tower has a backup generator and emergency organizations such as Enid Police Department, EFD, the 911 center and Garfield County Emergency Management also all have backup generators, “this system would never be down” for more than a few minutes, Honigsberg said, if electrical power is lost. The radios also have a battery backup, he said.

Anyone wanting information on the viaRadio system or to schedule a demonstration can call Honigsberg at 249-5969 or Enid Fire Department Chief Phil Clover at 234-0541. Honigsberg can be e-mailed at gcemcd21@yahoo.com or mhonigsberg@enid.org.

Donations can be sent to Garfield County LEPC, in care of Mike Honigsberg, 114 W. Broadway, Enid OK 73701.

Wx Chick
Dec 2nd 2007, 08:51 AM
The way I'm reading this article, certain types of alerts will be transmitted to certain "groups".
So for public/schools/nursing homes etc, if they're set to get weather alerts, I think they would get ALL weather alerts. It doesnt sound like someone at EM is going to be sitting by the radio picking and choosing which warnings are going to be sent out to who.

I could be wrong, but that's how i'm reading it.

Bureau Chief
Dec 2nd 2007, 09:41 AM
Ya I imagine you are right. But why the whole new system? Wx alert radios are cheaper, broadcast amber alerts and public emergency info like evacuations etc. The FD has more radios than God and can alert whoever they want. Just seems like a slick sales job from someone and the customers didnt think it through.

MOCR
Dec 2nd 2007, 02:19 PM
Ahh yes, viaRadio- it uses RDS to do its thing. RDS is the system many FM stations use to send call letter/song/artist info to your receiver if its so-equipped. Many stations do not use RDS, and the few who have invested in it, mainly in the larger markets, probably wouldn't want these guys honing in on that.

It is text-only, and despite the claims, RDS does not travel as far as the primary audio channel. And worst of all, the majority of radios in use today are not RDS-equipped. It says NOTHING about stations using HD Radio which are capable of MUCH more in sending text info to an HD receiver.

They sell a clock-radio that evidently is triggered by some sort of text verbage. Apparently it sounds an alarm, but you still have to read the display to see what that alarm is- it's a text-only system.

Since RDS is tied to a main channel of some station, your clock radio has to be set to the correct receive frequency in order for it to work. A NWR does the same thing already, but doesn't require you to read the display to find out what's woke you up in the dark hours of the early morning.

<sigh> I just wish NWR would be perfected as opposed to this re-inventing of the wheel. And I think there is enough off-the-shelf technology that the existing EAS warnings could be piped through RDS anyway- although I do not know of any stations currently doing that.

This sounds like a solution looking for some FEMA/DHS grant-funded problem...

:frustrated::frustrated::frustrated:

Edited to add: Here's their website: http://www.viaradio.com/index.htm

C St. SW
Dec 5th 2007, 09:37 AM
....Just seems like a slick sales job from someone and the customers didnt think it through.....

Precisely....

There are a ton of vendors out there looking for quick bucks from gullable city managers by touting the "latest and greatest" which are really just repackaged older technology.

The use of RDS (actually sub-carrier radios) is nothing new for sending EAS or emergency traffic. The problem was that most broadcasters were leasing all of their subcarriers (including the one used for RDS data) to other services and didn't want to give up that income stream to deliver alerts. The state EAS plan I worked on was one of a few that actively encouraged the use of subcarriers to pass EAS alerts in the background so a station in an uneffected area wouldn't have to use it's main channel as the main delivery path to the downstream stations. But....very few would allow the use of their subcarriers.

Now these companies are leasing these subcarriers as their former uses have wained and they now have the "bright" idea of sending emergency messages over them. Still a feasable use, but the larger question still remains whether these "new" systems are CAP compliant and compatable with the state's EAS system. If not, these cities are wasting their money.