BcS Meltdown!

[Great Cornholio]

We now have the ultimate exhibit for a D1 college football playoff!

IMHO it's so easy to fix too. Have only 8 D1 conferences (yes including forcing Notre Dame into the Big 10/11 or Big East) and you get 8 conference champs and there's your 8 teams for an 8 team playoff. DUH! You want 16 teams in the playoff? Then you take conference champs and runners up or have 16 conferences and still only conference champs. No polls or computers necessary!

So who gets in this year's game? If I had to bet it's Ohio State (ugh!) vs. LSU. I think the SEC honks make enough noise to get LSU in. I will say they have a point since both of LSU's losses came after regulation and to ranked teams.

Thoughts?

[adam & doctor drew]

why wouldn't the "SEC honks" get Georgia in?

[McCovey Cove Returns]

I believe the appropriate term to describe the BCS is "cluster fvck!"

[Great Cornholio]

Also, another thing I should've asked here: Are any of you hearing interesting "off the record" comments by the coaches/AD's? Last night on SportsCenter, they had Miles, Richt, Carroll, etc. on to stump for their team and they pretty much said just politically correct statements. The "well we can't change the system so this is the way it is" type of comments. I want to know if anybody of note is just blasting the BcS today!

One more thing: What about Hawaii?!? They are undefeated and in this season, that actually does mean something. I know, "they just played scrubs!" Well Michigan, USC, Pitt, and more all lost to "scrubs!" So the scrubs had major bite this year. Anybody want to say Ohio State v. Hawaii?

[adam & doctor drew]

I know, "they just played scrubs!" Well Michigan, USC, Pitt, and more all lost to "scrubs!" So the scrubs had major bite this year. Anybody want to say Ohio State v. Hawaii?

the problem with "they just played scrubs" as an argument is that the "bigger" schools DON'T WANT TO PLAY HAWAII (or Boise State, or other teams like that).
they view it as a no-win situation.

the Hawaiis and Boise States of the world would LOVE to play Ohio State/Michigan/Florida, etc.
but those "bigger" teams will never schedule them.

[Great Cornholio]

the problem with "they just played scrubs" as an argument is that the "bigger" schools DON'T WANT TO PLAY HAWAII (or Boise State, or other teams like that).
they view it as a no-win situation.

the Hawaiis and Boise States of the world would LOVE to play Ohio State/Michigan/Florida, etc.
but those "bigger" teams will never schedule them.

Absolutely True! In fact, a few years ago Texas pulled out of a road game vs. Hawaii because they "couldn't afford it!" THE University of Texas, perhaps the richest university program in the nation couldn't afford it, but schools like SMU and, UTEP (a fellow UT system school) and Utah can?!?

[DoneThatToo]

. . . I will say they have a point since both of LSU's losses came after regulation and to ranked teams.

Thoughts?

Arkansas was not ranked when they won against LSU. They were ranked after the win . . .

[JoinUsForCake]

If I hear one more inbred Va Tech moron whine about not getting into the Mythical Championship Game, I am gonna LOSE IT! Do these motards NOT remember getting pummeled 48-7 by LSU???

Personally I love how f*@#ed up this whole BCS thing is. It just proves how completely absurd Div I-A football is. Err, I mean FBS or whatever the NCAA thinks we are suddenly going to start calling it.

[Great Cornholio]

Personally I love how f*@#ed up this whole BCS thing is. It just proves how completely absurd Div I-A football is. Err, I mean FBS or whatever the NCAA thinks we are suddenly going to start calling it.

Does anybody actually refer to D-I and I-AA by the FCS and FBS BS on-air? The ones that do say "FCS, formally known as division one double-A" every time.

[markminn]

If I hear one more inbred Va Tech moron whine about not getting into the Mythical Championship Game, I am gonna LOSE IT! Do these motards NOT remember getting pummeled 48-7 by LSU???

Personally I love how f*@#ed up this whole BCS thing is. It just proves how completely absurd Div I-A football is. Err, I mean FBS or whatever the NCAA thinks we are suddenly going to start calling it.


Waaaaaaaaah!!! Penn State didn't get in! Boo Hoo!

[Nature Boy FriarTuck00]

If I hear one more inbred Va Tech moron whine about not getting into the Mythical Championship Game, I am gonna LOSE IT! Do these motards NOT remember getting pummeled 48-7 by LSU???

Personally I love how f*@#ed up this whole BCS thing is. It just proves how completely absurd Div I-A football is. Err, I mean FBS or whatever the NCAA thinks we are suddenly going to start calling it.

Well go ahead and lose it, then. Here's why VT should be ranked #2 ahead of LSU in the BCS rankings.

- The week prior, VT was ahead of LSU in the rankings (6 vs. 7)
- VT won their conference championship by a larger margin than LSU won theirs (yes, I know margin of victory doesn't count anymore).
- AND, most importantly, VT didn't lose to an unranked opponent on the final week of the regular season (LSU did). VT entered the ACC championship on a 4 game winning streak.

I agree that the BCS is totally F'd up, but we'll never see a full-fledged playoff system. So, it is, what it is.

[JoinUsForCake]

Waaaaaaaaah!!! Penn State didn't get in! Boo Hoo!
How'd Liberty do?:p

LSU 48, VT 7. Case closed. I don't care if LSU's other loss was against Hampden-Sydney College.

[WalMartNation]

Cornholio... we can all agree that a playoff is needed. I like most of your idea, BUT. ND will never join the Big 10 (11), they don't need them, and the Big 10 doesn't need ND. Moreover, NBC won't let that happen. IF ND joined a confernce, the rest of their sports would have to join as well, so right now that means ND's best shot at joining a conference is the Big East, who they would mop the floor with in theory.

I don't like the 8 team system, they'll still be tooooooo much bitc!'n and complain' Make it 16 teams, 11 D-1 conference winners and 5 at large. (The at-large would include Notre Dame since they're indie... and if they suck like they did this year, a much better team gets an at large) Kind of like basketball but on a smaller scale. That way if you have an unbeaten team in the Sun Belt, WAC, Mountain West, C-USA, or the MAC, they can get an at large and bump out a 2-loss SEC team and they can b!tch and moan like Mark Richt has this week.

First off... move back the start of the regular season to the very first week of Sept. or last week of August, quit trying to be like the NFL and starting the season 2 weekends into Sept. Even prep football regular seasons are halfway over by the time colleges start playing now!

16 teams would be a four week tournament, play 2 weekends, starting after the conference title games... then have your semi-finals on New Year's Day, the title game a week later... which is what they're doing anyway now that Fux has taken over the BCS TV contract and conference title games are being played the first or 2nd saturday of December. Remember when Army-Navy had the day to itself?

Don't like 16 teams, fine, make it 24.... same 11 conference winners get auto bids, 13 at large... top 8 teams get a first week bye (kind of like Div. II has now). If the senile old codgers that run college football see that it works (and it WILL), they can then eliminate the first round bye and bump it up to 32 teams and make it a 5 week tournament.

Too many weeks total? No TV network would ever say that, but if the schools looking out for the "student athlete" need to shave time, they can make the normal regular season 11 games again instead of 12 like they agreed to a few years ago since now you have a lot of teams playing 13 regular season games if they play in "week 1" or at Hawaii... they might play ANOTHER if they reach a confernce title game.

Here's an example, BYU played 15 games one season (1996)... 11 was a normal schedule, 1 extra for a week 1 game, another extra because they played at Hawaii in the old WAC, yet another in the WAC title game against Wyoming because the WAC had 2 divisions for the first time that year, AND LAST but not least, they played Kansas State in the Cotton Bowl and won to finish 14 and 1 that year. Didn't hear Lavell Edwards or his players complaining that year did you?

[Nature Boy FriarTuck00]

How'd Liberty do?:p

LSU 48, VT 7. Case closed. I don't care if LSU's other loss was against Hampden-Sydney College.

Cake, thanks for the Central Virginia references. Memories of home.

Yes, LSU wiped with floor with VT...in week 2! Let's compare the two losses each team has.

VT - Lost at #2 LSU 48-7 in week 2
VT - Lost to #2 BC 14-10 in week 8

LSU - lost at #17 Kentucky 43-37 in week 7
LSU - lost to unranked Arkansas 50-48 in week 12

So, VT has two losses, both to teams ranked #2 at the time of the games. And they entered their conference championship game on a 4 game winning streak. They win their conference championship convincingly by 14 points.

Meanwhile, LSU loses two close games, including one to an unranked team on the last week of the regular season. They entered their conference championship game on the heels of a loss. Then, they only beat Tennessee by 7.

Like I said, yes, the system is flawed. Yes, there should be a playoff system. So, until then, VT will have to settle for finishing the season at #2 after rolling over KU.

[The Thrill]

Sports Illustrated has a good article (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/12/04/bcs.scenerio1210/index.html) about how an 8-team playoff would fix everything this year...and how the Rose Bowl is the reason why the BCS ain't going anywhere anytime soon.

Another year, another Badger victory in the...Outback Bowl. :whistle:

[WalMartNation]

The Rose Bowl Committee could literally be the ones responsible for Illinois getting a BCS bid just so there can be a Big 10 Pac 10 matchup since Ohio State fell into the BCS championship game.

I have not read that article Thrill, but I have heard several folks on radio the past two weeks talking about how the B10 and P10 are the biggest (not the only of course) reason that talk of a playoff gets squashed constantly.

By all this "protecting the integrity of the bowls" talk from folks like Jim Delaney... I have to laugh because the BCS has destroyed the overall bowl system. What I mean is, there's BCS bowls.... then everything else. The Emerald Bowl, Sun Bowl, and Holiday Bowl might as well be the same game. It's the haves and have nots... all the payouts suck unless it's a BCS bowl. Same thing between the Alamo, Outback, and Capital One bowls. All bowls are now is a consolation prize.